First let me say I hope you had a really good Gathering. Secondly, sorry for taking so long to reply. I've been busy and didn't just want to post something just reactionary.
Look at the end of the day all I can tell you is my intentions behind asking you those questions and statements I made in that long debate. Which was to try and bring an end to all the Blades related negativity both on the boards and in your LJ because I didn't feel it was doing anyone (yourself included) any good, and to hopefully reach a point where you could enjoy TL.
All I can say is what I was trying to do, and what I thought I can do. I can't change how you interpret my actions, I can't make you believe me, and I can't speak for other people on this matter. In the same way as you can see from my comments above I clearly interpreted the above post in a way different to how you intended it. For example, I never registered the fact that you 'took pains in the original post to point out that I was not potentially creating anything new, rather revamping what was there' in your entry. In the same way I regularly felt you were reading something different to what I wrote in that original debate. You saw me 'jumping sideways', I saw you heading off at a tangent to what I wrote. Honestly I suspect there was a bit of both from both sides, because I feel that's how all these kinds of debates/arguments end up.
I personally don't feel that your negative behaviour should have brought any change, because it was negative behaviour. That's just me. All I wanted to point out in the comments, is the debate that was had, did almost certainly bring about change, but that I felt change was just as likely to have been an outcome if the whole thing wasn't negative. I didn't see how you benefitted from feeling it was a hollow victory, and I was concerned that that impression of yours would only create more negativity in future.
Look honestly I don't want to annoy you, though I do react, but mostly because I hate the feeling someone is forming false opinions of me because of a misunderstanding. So I can't leave it alone when I probably should. Ideally I'd want you to really enjoy yourself next year, and ideally I'd like to not get into this argument once more, because it seems to get us nowhere. I'd also like to avoid generally arguments with you in future, but seeing as our viewpoints on some things are diametrically opposite I'm not sure how feasable that is.
So I'm proposing the following: pick a time and a place, we can go to a pub together, I'll buy you a drink and we can hammer this all out. It would be nice if we can put this negativity behind us, and move on, so we can enjoy a mutually shared hobby together. If you don't want to fair enough, I just wanted to offer it.
Anyway I hope you have a good rest after the Gathering, and a good week.
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Date: 2006-08-28 02:10 pm (UTC)Look at the end of the day all I can tell you is my intentions behind asking you those questions and statements I made in that long debate. Which was to try and bring an end to all the Blades related negativity both on the boards and in your LJ because I didn't feel it was doing anyone (yourself included) any good, and to hopefully reach a point where you could enjoy TL.
All I can say is what I was trying to do, and what I thought I can do. I can't change how you interpret my actions, I can't make you believe me, and I can't speak for other people on this matter. In the same way as you can see from my comments above I clearly interpreted the above post in a way different to how you intended it. For example, I never registered the fact that you 'took pains in the original post to point out that I was not potentially creating anything new, rather revamping what was there' in your entry. In the same way I regularly felt you were reading something different to what I wrote in that original debate. You saw me 'jumping sideways', I saw you heading off at a tangent to what I wrote. Honestly I suspect there was a bit of both from both sides, because I feel that's how all these kinds of debates/arguments end up.
I personally don't feel that your negative behaviour should have brought any change, because it was negative behaviour. That's just me. All I wanted to point out in the comments, is the debate that was had, did almost certainly bring about change, but that I felt change was just as likely to have been an outcome if the whole thing wasn't negative. I didn't see how you benefitted from feeling it was a hollow victory, and I was concerned that that impression of yours would only create more negativity in future.
Look honestly I don't want to annoy you, though I do react, but mostly because I hate the feeling someone is forming false opinions of me because of a misunderstanding. So I can't leave it alone when I probably should. Ideally I'd want you to really enjoy yourself next year, and ideally I'd like to not get into this argument once more, because it seems to get us nowhere. I'd also like to avoid generally arguments with you in future, but seeing as our viewpoints on some things are diametrically opposite I'm not sure how feasable that is.
So I'm proposing the following: pick a time and a place, we can go to a pub together, I'll buy you a drink and we can hammer this all out. It would be nice if we can put this negativity behind us, and move on, so we can enjoy a mutually shared hobby together. If you don't want to fair enough, I just wanted to offer it.
Anyway I hope you have a good rest after the Gathering, and a good week.